tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post6029760166865943114..comments2023-10-17T05:01:42.650-04:00Comments on Abandoning Eden: The pros and cons of an OTDer dating / marrying a non jewish personAbandoning Edenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-60863262209980706192012-12-18T10:35:04.979-05:002012-12-18T10:35:04.979-05:00I think you can give the best of both worlds to yo...I think you can give the best of both worlds to your kid if you intermarry... You can expose them to some of the more beautiful aspects of Judaism and/or Jewish culture... but without the baggage. They can take it or leave it as they see fit. <br />kisaritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18181012456635737873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-52726893028213502762012-11-08T10:47:58.673-05:002012-11-08T10:47:58.673-05:00I think one of the saddest things about contempora...I think one of the saddest things about contemporary Orthodox Jewish education is that it is all Orthodox, not much Jewish. My in-laws Conservative synagogue is filled with Orthodox "drop outs," people that weren't interested in remaining observant, but still wanted to be Jewish and involved in Jewish communal life. The non-Orthodox movements have failed to produce an educated laity through poor education systems, and their communal leaders were ex-Orthodox Jews.<br /><br />Observant Jewish life is a huge commitment, and in many ways dominates your life. If you don't want the life of a frummie, you find yourself in a weird place. <br /><br />The Orthodox education model is heavily based on superstition and extreme positions, the more modern approaches are on the way out, which results in a weird dichotomy where Modern Orthodox Jews aren't really Modern Orthodox, they are just less practicing Chareidi Jews. So those that want out have no where to go.<br /><br />So if you don't find anything to like in Judaism, and you aren't interested in being observant, there really is no reason to stay within the fold.<br /><br />Survey after survey shows that "religious" people (defined as regular Church-goers, i.e. regularly attend services at a church, synagogue, or mosque) are happier, healthier, than their secular counterparts.<br /><br />So I would say that the pros definitely include other family rituals that may hold meaning and provide your children with a sense of community. As someone that is proud of his Jewish heritage, it would be nice if there was a path for people like yourself and other Orthodox "drop outs" to find something they like in American Jewish life, and remain proud of their heritage.<br /><br />The Orthodox world is so heavily revisionist that it's lost sight of the past two hundred years which has so much for American Jews to be proud of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-84283690305982064212012-11-01T14:06:02.461-04:002012-11-01T14:06:02.461-04:00Pro:
Non-Jews tend not to be socially and sexually...Pro:<br />Non-Jews tend not to be socially and sexually immature. <br />Non-Jews do not embrace the culture of entitlement that Jews of all stripes (Orthodox through Reform)<br /><br />Cons:<br />None that I can think of-we did it differently. At first we were all about the kids in Jewish schools, then we changed to a Conservative Egalitarian shul, suddenly we're pariahs. My kids took the brunt of it. My eldest graduated and moved to a secular high school. My youngest bore the heaviest reprisals. He eventually went to a Catholic High School for the performing arts.<br /><br />The frummies-said a brief Kaddish for them. Dead as a door-nail to me.teppy1954https://www.blogger.com/profile/13381108238965919170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-447661908971287572012-10-26T17:32:43.760-04:002012-10-26T17:32:43.760-04:00That is quite the comprehensive risk!
BTW, in case...That is quite the comprehensive risk!<br />BTW, in case they haven't checked yet, you might want to see if you have PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome). It is one of those pesky genetic disorder that a whole bunch of us Ashkenazi women have that come with insulin resistance, weight gain, risk for type 2 diabetes and some other stuff related to the reproductive system like cysts, too much and too little of all sorts of hormones etc. tikun olamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06963796462253093642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-7068351194505496602012-10-22T00:36:22.273-04:002012-10-22T00:36:22.273-04:00Pro: they know how to make bacon
Con: they never ...Pro: they know how to make bacon<br /><br />Con: they never shut up about eating baconAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02504734487692109101noreply@blogger.com