tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post6330791225752242104..comments2023-10-17T05:01:42.650-04:00Comments on Abandoning Eden: Still angryAbandoning Edenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-15872613215180064772008-08-13T18:37:00.000-04:002008-08-13T18:37:00.000-04:00caps are a sign of anger. Why are you angry?caps are a sign of anger. Why are you angry?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-59801335161664848242008-08-13T18:07:00.000-04:002008-08-13T18:07:00.000-04:00@rabban gamlielWhat's the difference between a gue...@rabban gamliel<BR/><BR/>What's the difference between a guest and a hostage?<BR/><BR/>The guest comes on his own free will.<BR/>This means that you cannot force anybody to be a guest.<BR/><BR/>If AE's Dad does not want to attend the wedding, for any reason, than it's is right. (civil right)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-46542556543990822602008-08-12T01:31:00.000-04:002008-08-12T01:31:00.000-04:00"They simply feel that halacha forbids them to att..."They simply feel that halacha forbids them to attend. <BR/><BR/>Please. Have they asked a rabbi? Or are they paskening from Fiddler on the Roof?<BR/><BR/>It's all about your dad's huge ego, and his denial of reality. It has nothing to do with halakha."<BR/><BR/>And you think the rabbi would say they could go? I doubt it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-55344081171935937642008-08-11T15:09:00.000-04:002008-08-11T15:09:00.000-04:00I vote clueless more than douchebag, and I think y...I vote clueless more than douchebag, and I think you should let him know how much it hurts you, as you wrote. I also think he's not going for the wedding, he's going to see his buddy. The wedding is just an excuse for his friend to throw a party.<BR/><BR/>As far as your dream goes, you seem to have issues w/both your parents, but mostly your mom, and that seems to have nothing to do with religion at all. But what do I know?s(b.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08633383652906692253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-78637613419642971822008-08-11T13:39:00.000-04:002008-08-11T13:39:00.000-04:00AE:Don't expect your Dad to accept B or your pendi...AE:<BR/><BR/>Don't expect your Dad to accept B or your pending marriage. He is who he is and will probably never change. You will have to live with that or just stop communicating with him (except maybe a Rosh Hashanah card with your coordinates so he can reach out if he so desires). Many Jewish and Christian families are torn apart by situations like your own (I have personally seen it) and there is not much you can do to change the way people react to these situations.<BR/><BR/>If your dreams keep recurring and they bother you may I politely suggest you discuss them a with a professional counselor. You have to come to peace with this otherwise this will haunt you for the rest of your life.<BR/><BR/>Good luck!<BR/><BR/>Left BrooklynAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-1826865043983323522008-08-11T12:01:00.000-04:002008-08-11T12:01:00.000-04:00Eden, I feel for you, girl. When this stuff invade...Eden, I feel for you, girl. When this stuff invades the dreams, it's personal.<BR/><BR/>Just keep in mind that they haven't cut you off... they've only said they aren't coming to the wedding. I wouldn't read too much into this stuff if it's not there explicitly.<BR/><BR/>The same goes for your dad's letter. It was insensitive and douchebag-ey, it's true. But I don't know if he meant it as a SEE, THERE!<BR/><BR/>However, it's sad we have to parent our parents. It seems OJ has turned our parents into children, mentally.<BR/><BR/>anon,<BR/><B>They simply feel that halacha forbids them to attend. </B><BR/><BR/>Please. Have they asked a rabbi? Or are they paskening from Fiddler on the Roof?<BR/><BR/>It's all about your dad's huge ego, and his denial of reality. It has nothing to do with halakha.The Candy Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13749324546753894121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-19257753142352892142008-08-11T10:30:00.000-04:002008-08-11T10:30:00.000-04:00anon 2- cause it was a bunch of non-related to jew...anon 2- cause it was a bunch of non-related to jewish stuff? I only post emails that are all about jewish stuff...Abandoning Edenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-84024625425527438182008-08-11T10:10:00.000-04:002008-08-11T10:10:00.000-04:00Hi,I'd thought I'd de-lurk to add my $.02. I don'...Hi,<BR/><BR/>I'd thought I'd de-lurk to add my $.02. I don't want to minimize the fact that you clearly don't have a good relationship with your father and that he's probably largely to blame.<BR/><BR/>However, your parents not attending your wedding shouldn't be seen as just another spiteful act. I have seen orthodox parents with good relationships with children in your situation and they still don't go to the wedding even though they feel awful. They simply feel that halacha forbids them to attend. You may feel that one's love for their child should trump halacha - but this just underscores the different ways you've chosen to live your lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-68110460388186108762008-08-11T09:53:00.000-04:002008-08-11T09:53:00.000-04:00I know it sounds odd, but try not to take it perso...I know it sounds odd, but try not to take it personally. Look at it as the reason why your parents can't show up is because of some silly religious obligations that prevents them from doing what they really want to do. They may even in their hearts feel as badly about it as you do. I'd feel sorry for them tooB. Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07086206346767831626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-60165735190246600982008-08-11T09:29:00.000-04:002008-08-11T09:29:00.000-04:00How come you decided not to post the letter like y...How come you decided not to post the letter like you usually do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-25837615527121968312008-08-11T09:04:00.000-04:002008-08-11T09:04:00.000-04:00Pleeeeeeease, stop being angry because of this.Tha...Pleeeeeeease, stop being angry because of this.<BR/><BR/>That's exactly the way they punish you (although I do not think it was intentional).<BR/><BR/>They can refuse to come to your wedding, they can refuse to meet B, <BR/><BR/>BUT THEY CANNOT FORCE YOU TO BE ANGRY.<BR/><BR/>You understand what I mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-6257944071167766522008-08-11T08:46:00.000-04:002008-08-11T08:46:00.000-04:00You understand your father better than he understa...You understand your father better than he understands you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com