tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post8953937488975803142..comments2023-10-17T05:01:42.650-04:00Comments on Abandoning Eden: How I went OTD and left the Jewish community for good: Part 5Abandoning Edenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-9031637083160847322019-10-07T01:16:35.672-04:002019-10-07T01:16:35.672-04:00"And the meat market nature of these young je..."And the meat market nature of these young jewish events and the extent to which some event organizers (especially Chabad) would push us to get drunk and hook up with other jews so we could mate and make more jewish babies...well that also got to me."<br /><br /><br />Ouch. That's bad. I would never go to that sort of party ever. Eeeeewwww, frankly.neroden@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07475686367097445497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-19478708261419249392011-09-01T17:10:09.193-04:002011-09-01T17:10:09.193-04:00Bret do you know what ethnicity means? Ethnically ...Bret do you know what ethnicity means? Ethnically you are probably italian, not aryan. :) Aryan is a race not an ethnicity.Abandoning Edenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-39546012993044968212011-09-01T14:22:19.078-04:002011-09-01T14:22:19.078-04:00Let's all embrace our ethnicity like it matter...Let's all embrace our ethnicity like it matters. I'm Aryan, anyone else? Anyone? Bueller?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02504734487692109101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-9867902730785714882011-08-30T15:24:40.996-04:002011-08-30T15:24:40.996-04:00Conservative - I agree 100%. See my comment from y...Conservative - I agree 100%. See my comment from yesterday <a href="http://abandoningeden.blogspot.com/2011/08/intermission-why-i-dont-believe-in.html?showComment=1314649444447#c7656915978147145761" rel="nofollow">here</a>, where I wrote something similarPhilohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02077376696343791699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-34373764921462863532011-08-30T15:23:53.579-04:002011-08-30T15:23:53.579-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Philohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02077376696343791699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-59564803852113838382011-08-30T13:31:48.237-04:002011-08-30T13:31:48.237-04:00It seems to me that the Orthodox indoctrination yo...It seems to me that the Orthodox indoctrination you received from your parents and your school actually facilitated your almost total rejection of your Jewish heritage. And the Orthodox accuse us Conservative and Reform heretics of causing a "spiritual genocide" of the Jewish people!<br /><br />The brainwashing, even when you were rebelling from it, made it hard for you to understand how we non-Orthos can be enthusiastic in our affiliation while not believing in much of the classical Jewish theology. Or, more to the point, the brainwashing made it hard for you to be like us. It's almost as if Orthodoxy is more worried about their kids becoming observant in a non-Orthodox denomination than they are in their kids going OTD altogether.<br /><br />So why do we non-Orthodox continue to go to shul and have seders, Shabbos dinners, etc. even though we don't believe the theology? I guess we were brainwashed differently. It's more a tribal solidarity thing. I love doing Shabbat because my grandfather (and even further back) did it, thus I'm participating in a long chain of (evolving) ritual practice, not making up some feel-good BS. The religion does have some good moral and ethical values (though I do admit you have to pick and choose a but, because some values are outdated, but the picking and choosing can be justified by citation of traditional sources.) The Bible may be a fairy tale and mythic history, but it does teach some good lessons if you take it on its own terms. <br /><br />It's a shame you couldn't find a way to accept your Jewish identity, though I can understand why you fled from a difficult situation.Conservativehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17993116662886366516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-78760451052437078332011-08-29T16:47:15.212-04:002011-08-29T16:47:15.212-04:00That's OK, I already have a mental image of yo...That's OK, I already have a mental image of your zucchini flowers being elongated - that makes them unique. Why mess with that?Philohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02077376696343791699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-36583498678299671932011-08-29T16:41:57.661-04:002011-08-29T16:41:57.661-04:00or rather right click it and hit "view image&...or rather right click it and hit "view image" or whatever the safari equivalent isAbandoning Edenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-281694806349290482011-08-29T16:39:53.383-04:002011-08-29T16:39:53.383-04:00hrm, I'm not sure, maybe it's because of t...hrm, I'm not sure, maybe it's because of the html I use? (I use height="85%" width="85%" cause otherwise my pictures are always too big). It always looks fine on firefox...I think if you double click it you should be able to see the full picture?Abandoning Edenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-67100704354598708572011-08-29T16:20:09.994-04:002011-08-29T16:20:09.994-04:00>Why are pictures on your blog always stretched...>Why are pictures on your blog always stretched horizontally? Or at least that's how they appear in Chrome and on my cellphone.<br /><br />Appears on Safari as well. It's always been like that.Holy Hyraxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17704030181702087485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-44878062764724866222011-08-29T16:06:58.180-04:002011-08-29T16:06:58.180-04:00I'm with HH - how about some aliens! Call one ...I'm with HH - how about some aliens! Call one God, the other Flying Spaghetti Monster, throw in Han Solo & some Wookies, and let's get an epic battle on :-)Philohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02077376696343791699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-39979147233932285142011-08-29T16:05:50.015-04:002011-08-29T16:05:50.015-04:00Why are pictures on your blog always stretched hor...Why are pictures on your blog always stretched horizontally? Or at least that's how they appear in Chrome and on my cellphone.Philohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02077376696343791699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-12635013233182148932011-08-29T16:05:07.158-04:002011-08-29T16:05:07.158-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Staumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04092344925121412070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-51560628870459513752011-08-29T15:53:20.592-04:002011-08-29T15:53:20.592-04:00true....but I still hope you can squeeze some alie...true....but I still hope you can squeeze some aliens in there.Holy Hyraxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17704030181702087485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-59934331874713605972011-08-29T15:49:50.559-04:002011-08-29T15:49:50.559-04:00you know how it ends HH, you've been reading t...you know how it ends HH, you've been reading this blog since the beginning, and I started it like 6 months after this blog post ends.Abandoning Edenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696116071749613265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-91098430637493379282011-08-29T15:44:21.234-04:002011-08-29T15:44:21.234-04:00I hope it ends with some sort fierce alien gun bat...I hope it ends with some sort fierce alien gun battleHoly Hyraxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17704030181702087485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8552682727548828725.post-26668926127947529962011-08-29T15:20:41.011-04:002011-08-29T15:20:41.011-04:00Great story! It took a lot of courage to break off...Great story! It took a lot of courage to break off ties to the Jewish community. I am still trying to work out where I fit in Jewishly. Can't wait to read the next part.Suzannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05516506259451312295noreply@blogger.com